I guess they must want to increase votes for Republicans? ;)

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I guess they must want to increase votes for Republicans? ;)

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Post by sarge » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:51 am

The thing that is concerning here is that we all know that the word "immigrant" is what the Government uses to refer to "illegal aliens" because saying "illegal aliens" is bad.
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Post by iconicflux » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:58 am

sarge wrote:The thing that is concerning here is that we all know that the word "immigrant" is what the Government uses to refer to "illegal aliens" because saying "illegal aliens" is bad.
It's not "bad", it's inaccurate. It ascribes a criminal action to someone without them being given the benefit of their constitutional rights.


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Post by sarge » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:45 am

iconicflux wrote:
sarge wrote:The thing that is concerning here is that we all know that the word "immigrant" is what the Government uses to refer to "illegal aliens" because saying "illegal aliens" is bad.
It's not "bad", it's inaccurate. It ascribes a criminal action to someone without them being given the benefit of their constitutional rights.


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SCOTUS has ruled that these words in the 14th Amendment confers all relevant Constitutional Rights to all persons within the borders of the United States:
No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
IOW, everything that applies to us when the Government takes legal action, applies to persons within the United States illegally.

So, by your definition, that makes "illegal alien" a pefect, in fact the most perfect, description of someone who has entered the United States illegally.
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Post by BillyBob66 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:10 pm

sarge wrote:
iconicflux wrote:
sarge wrote:The thing that is concerning here is that we all know that the word "immigrant" is what the Government uses to refer to "illegal aliens" because saying "illegal aliens" is bad.
It's not "bad", it's inaccurate. It ascribes a criminal action to someone without them being given the benefit of their constitutional rights.


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SCOTUS has ruled that these words in the 14th Amendment confers all relevant Constitutional Rights to all persons within the borders of the United States:
No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
IOW, everything that applies to us when the Government takes legal action, applies to persons within the United States illegally.

So, by your definition, that makes "illegal alien" a pefect, in fact the most perfect, description of someone who has entered the United States illegally.
Agree. If you have entered the country illegally, you are an illegal alien, or if you prefer, you are an illegal immigrant. Words have meaning. They are here illegally. A criminal action has been taken by them when they entered the country. Not inaccurate. Could not be more accurate.
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